Ja tez chcialam ostrzec przed oszustami - malo brakowalo a nabralabym sie. Cos mi nie dawalo spopkoju i postanowilam goscia podejsc. Gosc podaje sie za Oliver'a Barielo, transportowa firma krzak to Dek-Trans-Mondial, a koles reprezentujacy ta firme to niejaki Batchelor Melvyn Bert
Ogloszenie Honda Civic, 2006r., 1799cm3, 140KM - otoMoto
Zalaczam korespondencje. Czytajcie od konca!!
W miedzyczasie otrzymalam oczywiscie list przewozowy, skan paszportu goscia z tej firmy transportowej, rachunek za kupno samochodu ( podejrzane bylo to ze nie bylo absolutnie zadnego numeru,ani Vin ani Rejestr., tylko rocznik samochodu i marka).
Oczywiscie gosc sie wiecej nie odezwal, jeszcze trzykrotnie prosilam o numer telefonu, pisalam i cisza, takze uwazajcie i zastanowcie sie 5 razy zanim wyslecie zaliczke! Cena kusi a potem rwiemy wlosy z glowy!
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From:
martitka80@hotmail.com
To:
olv_brl99el@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Honda Civic
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:27:31 +0000
I don't play with you. Keep that car for me, Please. I know that you pay for every day of standby and don't worry, I will pay extra money for these few days if i checked the car on tuesday. If everytning is fine i'll give you then 500 euro and they'll send the car. I'm not joking, seriously. I'm not stupid, just don't trust! Cause anybody can prepare documents, scan them and send . . .
That's all I can do. And this is not a bad joke, this is life, life of internet lies and cheats. I'll be there on tuesday like I said - I want to check the car and the papers, give you 500 euro and pay for few days of standby.
Give me your phone number if you can.
Thanks
I think that you play with me....What is this bad joke..I payed for the delivery and for the documents and now you told me that you do not want to pay....I old you taht I spoke with the company and they accept 500EUR so they can start the delivery...you told me that you are agree and you will make the payment today...
I understand you that you do not want to pay 50% of the car because you are not sure...but trust me if I do not play with my life for 500EUR(I have family)....so please do not play with me and make the first payment of 500EUR to the company so they can start the delivery .
Thank you and I wait your fast answer
From:
martitka80@hotmail.com
To:
olv_brl99el@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Honda Civic
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:50:51 +0000
Ok listen, I lived in England before for 3 years and now I have some things to do and got to go there. I'm going to London on tuesday, i have a ticket already so I'm gonna check the car also and give you the money right there. So. i'm not sending any money today, wait till tuesay and if You can give me your phone number.
Thanks.
From:
olv_brl99el@hotmail.com
To:
martitka80@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Honda Civic
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:02:53 -0700
OK . I spoke with the company and I informed them about your confirmation...They wait your answer with information about the payment so they can start the delivery .
When they will receive information about the payment , they will start the delivery immediatly...
Thank you and i wait your confirmation tomorrow after you will make the payment.
From:
martitka80@hotmail.com
To:
olv_brl99el@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Honda Civic
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:33:27 +0000
OK 500 euro is OK, I 'll send it on friday. OK?
From:
olv_brl99el@hotmail.com
To:
martitka80@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Honda Civic
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:02:11 -0700
Look:I told you that I can`t send you the documents of the car,but,you have the confirmation about the delivery from company,you have the bill of sale,bill of landing and passport of the agent who make the delivery...what you want more like that??
You can pay tomorrow morning 500EUR????if you will make this payment , the company will start the delivery and you will receive the car to your home.When you will receive the car to your home ,you can test the car and inspect the documents and decide if you want to buy or no....I thinkf that 500EUR is not like 2000.
If you can make this first payment , the delivery will be start..i told you that I have to pay everyday of standby.
Thank you and I wait your prompt answer
From:
martitka80@hotmail.com
To:
olv_brl99el@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Honda Civic
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:53:39 +0000
Oliver I want to believe that's not a fake thing.
About the payment - go back to mail e-mail from the beginning. We missunderstood I think, cause I wrote to you that i'm waiting for the money from insurance company and it's gonna take 2 more weeks to get the money. The transport company send me the e-mail today with the information about the payment in 2 days.
Do you thing I'm gonna pay it right away?? NO I just can't because the first thing is that i have no money - i'm waiting for it and I told you that in first or second e-mail, and another thing is that I just can' t pay for car what papers i did'n even see... cause this is like "buying a pig in a poke".
I really want this car, believe me I do. So what we'll do now? Are you gonna send the scans and wait 2 more weeks or what?
I'm sorry we missunderstood, but this not my fault like you see.....
From:
olv_brl99el@hotmail.com
To:
martitka80@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Honda Civic
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:20:18 -0700
I think that you play with me ....You told me yesterday that you have money to buy my car and you are ready to start the deal with me...I was to the company , I prepared all documents and delivery on your name,I payed for that and now you told me that this deal is fake???????
I told you that I sell the car for this price because I can not registre and drive here in UK....what fake you see here???
Please do not play with me,because I payed for this bad joke and I have to pay everyday of standby..
Thank you and I think if this is not a joke and the company will start the delivery today,or tomorrow because you will make the first payment.
From:
martitka80@hotmail.com
To:
olv_brl99el@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Honda Civic
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:13:34 +0000
Hello again.
I've got the e-mail from transport company. To be honest with you - It looks very fake for me. I consulted it with few people, they make transactions abroad and they said the same, that's "stinky case". I checked the price as well, and You know that too - this car is worth more than you want to sell it for. So tell me the truth now! What is the trick here?? I'm gonna get different car than on the pictures? Will be crashed? Or maybe I will never see it,just lose 2000 euro . . .
And what about the scans again? Are you gonna send them to me?
From:
olv_brl99el@hotmail.com
To:
martitka80@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Honda Civic
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:47:01 -0700
Today I will go to the company and I will prepare all documents and delivery on your name . When the delivery will be ready to start , the company will contact you with confirmation about the delivery and information about the payment ....YOu will receive the passport of the agent who make the delivery and who will receve the payment , the bill of sale...
DO not worry....the car was verifyed by the company and is in perfect condition with all documents ok and necessary for you...If the car is not OK,I can`t send you..
Thank you and we are in contact....and agail I told you...Don`t worry you will contact by the company with confirmation,with bill of sale...
Subject: RE: Honda Civic
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:37:10 +0000
Hello Oliver.
I talked to my father yesterday, he likes the car a lot, same like me. Thing is, we're little affraid, I have no idea is everything ok with the papers, you don't want to send the scans. You have to understand me. If i will have to send 2000 euro I don't even know for what i'm sending the money.... What documen't is proof that I give you the deposit? And how much I risk? If is something wrong with the papers or with the car all money will be send back??
Look, I'm not rich person, only money I have is the money from insurance company i'm waiting for it. I don't work now. I just don't want to loose anything. Could you give me the details of that company which is taking care of it??
Thanks
From:
olv_brl99el@hotmail.com
To:
martitka80@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Honda Civic
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:57:23 -0700
Sorry but my lawyer do not leave me to send the documents on the internet ...
Tomorrow morning I will go to the company with my lawyer and I will prepare all documents and the delivery on your name . When the delivery will be ready to start , the company will contact you with confirmation about the delivery and information about the payment.
Thank you and we are in contact!!
Hello there!
Is it possible that you send scans of all the documents of the car?? I would like to check them here in registration office. I believe, all the papers are ok
but to make sure i'll do it if you don't mind.
My name :
Surname :
Address :
City : Kowiesy
Postal Code :
Country :
Phone number :
The corespondence address is different : and I actually live here. The address above is my registered address and I have it in my ID.
From:
olv_brl99el@hotmail.com
To:
martitka80@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Honda Civic
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:34:17 -0700
Hello Again,
I told you that the price of the car is 4,000 EUR/15,818 PLN with all shipping and insurance included. This operation will be make with one transport company who make the delivery in world wide. They handle everything,the delivery and all documents so you can register on your name.I will pay for transportation and insurance so,you have to pay only the price and nothing more. I will go with my lawyer to the company so I prepare the documents on your name.
You must send a deposit of 50% (EUR 2000/7909PLN) of the total amount to one of the officers of the company (your money is in escrow until you receive and test the car).They will contact you by email with confirmation about the delivery and information about the payment . After you receive all the information, you need to make the first deposit of 50% (EUR 2000/7909PLN) so they can start the delivery and so you can receive the car to your address.When you will receive the car, you'll have 10 days to inspect the car and the documents. If you encounter any problems with the car and do not want to keep the car , you have to contact the company and they will give you the money back and pick up the car from you .If you want to buy the car after 10 days of test , you have to send the rest of the money 50% of the total amount.
The car was verified by their technicians and is ready to be shipped. I see that you're really interested and I want to make a deal with you.
Now, to start official operation, all you have to do is give me the following information:
Name:
Surname:
Address:
City:
Country:
Postal Code:
Phone:
I need a copy of your ID in order to prepare documents on your name.
When I will have your full data wher I have to send the car , I will go to the company and I will prepare all documents and the delivery on your name . When the delivery will be ready to start , the company will contact you with confirmation about the delivery and information about payment.
Thank you and I wait your answer!
From:
martitka80@hotmail.com
To:
olv_brl99el@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Honda Civic
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:26:25 +0000
I'm very interested if that car is in perfect condition like you said. My car was stolen,and now i'm waiting for the money from insurance company, so it will take about 2 more weeks.
Few more questions
Are you gonna come to Germany to sell the car? Was the car originally bought in Germany?
From:
olv_brl99el@hotmail.com
To:
martitka80@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Honda Civic
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:22:38 -0700
Hello,
I see that you're interested to buy my car. I can tell you that the car is in excellent condition and is currently registered in Germany, the original bill in my name, all payed.The vehicle is in perfect condition, never involved in any accidents, has no technical damage at all, no scratches or dents, no hidden defects, no smoking,or something else.Everything is OK with the car.
I'm currently in England in the city of London , and the car is here with me, I worked in Germany but now I am back in London with the car because I thought that I can registre it here , but I get a lot of money and it is very difficult to drive this car with the wheel left.
The exact model of car is Honda Civic and have 64900KM.
The year of teh car is 2006.
The car price is 4000EUR(15818 PLN) including shipping costs, insurance and handling.
If you are interested please contact me for more photos and information about the transaction.
Thanks!
From:
martitka80@hotmail.com
To:
olv_brl99el@hotmail.com
Subject: Honda Civic
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:50:23 +0000
Hello.
4 000 EUR is the last price of this car? And where is it located, in Poland??
